Talk:Zhang Liang

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Zhang Liang was the most brilliant strategist I have ever heard. His intelligence helped Liu Bang to establish the Han Dynasty. His best contribution was discovering Han Xin. I Like Zhang Liang very much. his brilliant eyes recognizeed Liu Bang as the emperor.


2005-11-04 About English terms: The author should consider using another term other than "created". Twice out of three times in which it occurs, "named" would seem more appropriate. There's probably a more formal term for this. Liu Bang didn't create anyone. He invested certain people with certain titles, it seems. ...The title of a novel comes to mind, "The Creation of the Gods". The translation "creation" is a bit misleading here. Another translation used was "investiture". Anyway, for your consideration.

PS: Isn't Zhang Liang the one who retired after Liu Bang defeated Xiang Yu, saying something about how after the hunt, the hunting dogs are killed? It's a great quote; but according to this article, it seems that he didn't really withdraw from service to Liu Bang/Emperor Gao. Incidentally, the quote comes to mind in the case of Yoshitsune in Japanese history.



"Create" is the right term. See, for example, http://www.webster.com/dictionary/create. --Nlu 06:23, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Proverb

There is a cantonese proverb regarding to Zhang Liang, but i forgot the whole meaning, it goes like this "You got Zhang Liang list/strategy, but I got Po Chuang List/strategy". Can anybody clearify the correct phrase to me? Basically the meaning of this proverb is about countering someones list.