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[edit] Former Page

I'm reverting this article back to it's old glory, but I don't want the current info to be lost. I'm posting it here.

Zack (ザックス Zakkusu?) was a SOLDIER 1st Class from Gongaga. Though laid back and a flirt, Zack follows a moral code of loyalty to his friends, striving to protect people above all else, and fighting those who have no respect for life. While stationed in Midgar, he met and dated Aerith.[1] Five years prior to the start of the game, he is sent, along with Cloud, Sephiroth and some other soldiers, to investigate reports of monsters causing disruptions in the vicinity of the Mt. Nibel mako reactor. After Sephiroth's massacre of Nibelheim's villagers, Cloud and Zack are taken prisoner in the basement of the Shinra Mansion and used as test subjects for Hojo's Sephiroth "Clone" Project, an experiment designed to test Hojo's Jenova Reunion Theory by injecting subjects with Jenova cells.

Zack with Cloud in Final Fantasy VII: Last Order.
Zack with Cloud in Final Fantasy VII: Last Order.

However, after four years, Zack breaks out of his confinement and carries the incapacitated Cloud with him during their escape. Zack's ability to escape from his imprisonment is due to the fact that he — being an individual full of self-confidence, and, as a result, a strong will — was unencumbered by the potentially negative side-effects of mako treatment (known as "mako poisoning") and had handled the treatment before when being infused with mako as part of the procedure to become a member of SOLDIER.[2] He gives Cloud some of his clothes and gets them transport to Midgar, where he hopes to become a mercenary. However, before arriving in Midgar, they are ambushed by Shin-Ra soldiers. Zack is shot to death, while Cloud, too sick to move, is simply left to die on his own. Subsequently, Cloud takes Zack's persona — either due to his mako poisoning or a side-effect of the Jenova cells Hojo injected into him as part of the Sephiroth "Clone" Project — and Buster Sword. Zack essentially lives on in Cloud for much of the game, the latter having adopted many of his memories and character traits. After the events of Final Fantasy, Cloud planted the Buster Sword around where Zack died, serving as his friend's gravemarker.

Zack is a playable character in Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII, where more of his past may be revealed. He also appears in flashbacks and accompanies Aerith in Advent Children, in which he is voiced by Kenichi Suzumura in Japanese version and Rick Gomez in the English version.


[edit] Zack the Wolf

Should it be noted on this page that Zack seems personfified as a wolf in FF:AC? The wolf constantly appears in places, either with Cloud, or in areas important to Zack. He appeared in Clouds dreams, so it can't be a normal wolf, and I remember it being said he was Zack...should this be added? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.131.181.182 (talk) 21:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC).

The wolf is a manifestation of Cloud's guilt, not Zack. This has been stated officially to be the case. The wolf appears in locations where Cloud's feelings of guilt are rooted; the gravemarker where Zack died, Aerith's church, and the place where he put Aerith to rest.

[edit] Crisis Core?!

Anyone mind redoing that section when the game comes stateside? I highly doubt that most of that info is true, and even if it was, it's too specific. A more condensed version would be nice. ChromeWulf ZX 02:12, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I edited the Crisis Core section yesterday for about an hour, cutting out unnecessary details and changing things that were poorly written. Someone added them back in today, so that section of the article needs to be watched and maintained at a reasonable size. Nanten 20:51, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:ZackandCloudLastOrder.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:09, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Crisiscore2.jpg

Image:Crisiscore2.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:14, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Out of Order

After reading and looking at the article, it has come to my attention that this article needs to be rewritten so that it wouldn't look like it's out-of-order. Suggestions? Objections? 71.57.74.109 (talk) 13:49, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Order isn't that important. Just check the other articles; they all explain their original role in FFVII, and then go to their other appearances. If anything, the article just needs to have the "Related Appearances" comply with the release dates of the games; it also helps the article keep a more 'out of universe' style. That being said, I'll go through it and make sure it's in that order.WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 15:09, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fictional Biography

It said that working under Angeal, Zack eventually becomes a 2nd class SOLDIER. Actually he IS 2nd class and gets promoted to 1st class, so I changed that. However this is stated later in the article under "Related Final Fantasy VII Appearances". It seems redundant. Can I suggest either deleting "Fictional Biography" and having his information under the "Crisis Core" paragraph of "related appearances", or taking out the Crisis Core paragraph and making it his Fictional Biography since that really is his main story. One or the other, but it seems unecessary to have both. Anyone else? 206.226.255.59 (talk) 14:42, 16 May 2008 (UTC)kris

I concur. The fictional biography explains things not said in the appearances section, but Zack never really had a background, except that short sentence. The difference with Aerith and Sephiroth and the like is that they have a past that would make the 'Appearances' section too long. Plus people keep coming and making it huge and explaining the entire game. Just delete it. The way things are now, with the exception of that bit, is because it's more 'out-of-universe', with things going in order of their release.WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 21:48, 16 May 2008 (UTC)